westhammerer
10:33 Fri Nov 17
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I think the notion that after four or five episodes it works better is correct.
There's a lot of having to establish new characters, places, relationships, etc., in the first few episodes.
Once done there is the foundation for things and situations to develop.
It has got better as it has gone along.
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Eastside surge
7:52 Fri Nov 17
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I must admit the trailer I saw didn't really inspire me, just looked like the average American comedy which it never was. As others have said I think once nines,daphne, ros didn't want to be in it they should have shelved it .
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Side of Ham
3:39 Fri Nov 17
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Russ of the BML 12:58 Fri Nov 17
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Fauxstralian
3:34 Fri Nov 17
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I did read a review that as said below reckoned it was awkward to start but warmed up after 4 or 5 episodes
Happy to watch Cheers and old Frasier with the proper cast myself
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Russ of the BML
12:58 Fri Nov 17
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I've steered clear of this because of Lyndhurst who, for me, everything he has ever been in (apart from OFAH) plays an intolerable, pompous and condescending cunt. I'm assuming his character in this is the same?
Loved the old Frasier with a passion. But I'll just remember it for what it was, I think.
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Vexed
12:43 Fri Nov 17
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The reboot started off a bit poor and has now got to acceptable territory after around episode 4-5. Apart from Grammar who is still very good and Lyndhurst who's is tolerable the rest of the cast are fucking abject, absolutely dogshit actors.
As for the series itself, it lacks all of the subtlety and clever references that made Frasier so good and had instead opted for boiled down comedy by numbers that requires no thought, presumably a bit more American friendly. It's a shame because Frasier was excellent and the cast were stellar.
Should have left it alone but it's not as bad as I was expecting. It's not Blues Brothers 2000 bad.
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Manuel
12:06 Fri Nov 17
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Ball - It's had bad reviews, but agree it's picking up a little. I've never liked Frasier's snobbery, the sort of bloke I wouldn't like in real life, but still like the character, if that makes sense. Lillith looked scary.
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On The Ball
11:53 Fri Nov 17
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My hopes were high but expectations low. It's nearer the 'low' end - it's not great at all, but it could be worse and I feel it's improving very slightly, but that's probably me just getting familiar with the characters (and getting over my dislike of Nicholas Lyndhurst). It was good to see Lilith back this morning.
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Manuel
9:37 Fri Nov 17
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So has anyone been watching the reboot? I think it's bloody awful, or am I being harsh? Fraser Crane is still good but don't rate the new lot, including Rodney. All seems very ''wooden'' to me. Should have left it alone.
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jakehammer
9:48 Sat Feb 27
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I'm with Capitol man on this Niles was brilliant and was by far the best character on the show.
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Far Cough
8:12 Sat Feb 27
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fraser, it's highly likely that the Romanised population of Iberia spoke Latin to some degree especially the part of Iberia that Maximus came from
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daveyg
8:06 Sat Feb 27
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Far Cough
i think you'll find Russell Crowe's character hailed (Caeser ) from Spain.
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Capitol Man
4:53 Sat Feb 27
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Niles is by far the best character and best actor in that.
It won’t be the same, but if they manage to get a lot of the same writers back it still has a lot of potential.
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Bungo
2:23 Sat Feb 27
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Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York.
Can't imagine what Irish people made of that.
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MaryMillingtonsGhost
2:20 Sat Feb 27
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Far Cough 2:10
Surely Connery had a bad accent in... well, pretty much ANY film where he portrayed someone who wasn't Scottish?
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Manuel
2:20 Sat Feb 27
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Ray Winstone in The Departed.
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only1billybonds
2:18 Sat Feb 27
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Kevin Costner as ye olde Robin Hood in 'Prince of.. thieves'
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Far Cough
2:10 Sat Feb 27
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Bad accents:
Sean Connery as a Soviet submarine commander in Hunt for Red October
As previously said Dick Van Dyke as a cockney chimney sweep in Mary Poppins
Russell Crowe as a Roman Gladiator
Any more?
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Bungo
2:06 Sat Feb 27
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Sven
That's why I really hope it was deliberately crap. If anyone thought this was a realistic English accent then a double facepalm is woefully insufficient. :)
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Sven Roeder
2:00 Sat Feb 27
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Seemed a bit odd to cast an Australian actor whose career has mainly been putting on an American accent to appear on US tv to play a Mancunian.
Not sure WHAT accent he was really aiming for to be fair
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Bungo
1:57 Sat Feb 27
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There should also be a special mention for Daphne's brother Simon, played by Anthony LaPaglia.
I have to assume it was on purpose but has to be about the worst 'English' accent since Dick Van Dyke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JD7PLI7AxQ&ab_channel=rawdmon
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